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A serious bug at UB's PLO game (???)

Postby k3nt » Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:51 pm

Inspired by the front page post, I decided to try playing some PLO for the first time tonight. I started with the free game at UB. And here is what I found, right away: the UB software does not know how to calculate pot size during a hand! Either that, or I do not know what a "PL" Omaha is about.

Here's what happened. Pre-flop:

Blinds are 10/20 chips. I sat down & posted an extra blind of 20, so there are 50 chips to start. Here's what happens next.

cooldude1900 raises to 40. Uni-bomber calls.
brian239 re-raises to 210. 408HaRRy re-raises to 760.....

OK, let's stop it there and go through this. There are 50 chips in the pot to start. Then a raise to 40 means 90 chips are in the middle. A call means there are now 130 in the middle, and the biggest bet made so far is 40. Shouldn't the max bet now be to 170? (Raising the 40 by the pot size of 130?) But the next bet is to 210 -- a RAISE of 170 above the earlier bet. That can't be right, is it?

At any rate, now there are 340 in the pot, and the biggest bet so far is 210. So the biggest bet allowable should be a raise by 340. 210 + 340 = 550, so the biggest allowable should be a bet to 550, right? But the next bet comes at 760!

So here's my question. Am I just misled about what PLO allows, or is the UB site seriously screwed up? (It allows bets like this all the time. In no-limit hold em, if you click "bet the pot" when people have already raised, it overbets the pot significantly.)

Thanks for any help.
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Postby iceman5 » Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:18 pm

Heres how PL works (and how a pot sized raise is calculated)
The blinds are 10/20 and you posted 20 so the pot is 50.
Cooldude raises to 40....pot is 90
UniBomber calls 40........pot is 130
If the next guy wants to make a pot sized raise...he has to call the 40 before he can raise(making the pot 170) and raise the pot which 170 so his total bet is 40+170=210.
Pot is 210
Next guy wants to reraise the pot. he has to call the 210 making the pot 420 and he can raise another 420 making his total bet 420+210=760
Make sense?
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Postby k3nt » Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:55 pm

Thanks for clarification. I appreciate it.

So when we're recommended to "bet the pot" at NL, a la this web site, does that mean first call everybody's raise and THEN bet the pot on top of that? Or does the advice only apply really when you're 1st to bet?

Any chance once these questions get answered that the thread can get deleted so I don't look so dumb? :)
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Postby iceman5 » Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:16 pm

LOL. Its not a dumb question. It took me a long time to figure it out also, mainly because I didnt want to ask anyone and risk looking dumb.
livepokerforum means being the 1st bettor....raise-the-pot is a whole new can of whoop ass.
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